Roboute Guilliman (with the Hand of Domination) VS Konrad Curze. This bloated, rotten carcass of an empire is driven not by reason and hope, but by fear, hate and ignorance. True to his legion, Roboute Guilliman is fairly average as far as Primarchs go, both in terms of his stats and his points cost, but it's the rules and equipment you really want him for. According to a techmarine who may or may not have been just fucking with one of Cawl's minions in the novel The Great Work, other lingering elements of people’s religious devotion to his mythologized status includes a disturbing tendency for people to kill themselves after meeting him, because they will never be Ultramarines they know that they’ll never experience a more significant moment in their lives. Guilliman's rerollable DtW doesn't do shit, as it only works against witchfires and maledictions, while Lorgar's most powerful spells are blessings. It's worth mentioning that there is a bit of historical precedence for it, given the whole "Imperium is Space Rome" thing. At this point Guilliman should switch to the Hand of Domination since he will inflict enough damage to stunlock Angron at Initiative 1. Also, the sky is the limit with the unit entry buff. He also saw a potential for common ground with Lorgar, but that potential was never explored because of... Reasons. Will be finished soon... What do you think about this model? Image Tags: Abaddon, Chaos, Conversion, Marine Abuse, Roboute Guilliman, Warhammer 40,000: Comments: zariart Painting 9/10, Coolness 9/10 @ 2017-03-29 04:01:42 lovely flames: Drakeslayer Painting 10/10, Coolness 10/10 @ 2017-03-29 19:15:38 Superb conversion. ROBOUTE GUILLIMAN DOMINION BELT . You'll almost always be using the Sword as up to T4 he wounds on a 2+, and up to T7 on a 3+, and you'll benefit from the higher AP and the chance to deal extra mortal wounds. Feel free to think what you want about Guilliman being OP or a Mary Sue, FW still made him more grimdark than before, even if he remains a nice dude by 30k standards. Send a nice gift basket perhaps? He is still at the core a defender of the Imperial Truth, however he understands that the Imperium in its current state needs faith to survive. ДУРДОМ, А НЕ МРАЧНАЯ ВСЕЛЕННАЯ... "Это 41 тысячелетие.Вот уже более ста веков Император недвижимо сидит на Золотом Троне. Apparently, he and Sigmar are behind the sudden surge of good policies done by GeeDubs. Flames are on point. The dictator was given absolute executive and military power over Rome and her holdings in times of crisis, when the gridlock and bureaucratic red tape of Roman society got in the way of doing what needed to be done. Astelan, while a prisoner of the Dark Angels goes into detail explaining how Guilliman was purportedly the 'greatest' of the Primarchs, but only in the context of what the Emperor intended for them. I think we need to talk a little about Roboute Guilliman. He's one of the few Primarchs to realize that the Emperor's ideals were more important than the man himself, which is something that Malcador kept preaching. I thought you’d done much, much worse. [12] But as impressive as his martial skills are, Guilliman is depicted in the fluff as first and foremost a tactician, and he has the special rules to back this up. "Amongst his brothers, none had been more idealistic than Roboute Guilliman. Focused on the Plague Wars in Ultramar, it’s the closest look yet at reborn Primarch Roboute Guilliman in the 41st Millennium – and it’s continuing soon. Concussed Fulgrim (cannot happen earlier than round 3): Hits 2.708 times, wounds 2.106 times, 1.053 times after the invuln, 0.845 after the re-roll and IWND will take that down to 0.56 wounds. Well, I finished the model some time ago, then I waited for the plinth and for the plaque. He thought that spending time together at the muster and again later, killing orks would be a bonding experience that would help the legions grow closer. Unfortunately, thanks to 10,000 years of propaganda and exaggeration (and Matt Ward's Codex: Space Marines), Guilliman is absolutely perfect in every way and treated as second only to the Emperor through the entire Imperium. E-money might not love him as a son, but that doesn't mean his ideals aren't worth fighting for and Guilliman intends to do it right this time! It would take centuries for the rest of Europe to catch back up to them. Ditto with the Alpha Legion and a smarter opponent, the Iron Warriors and an especially mobile opponent, etc. Within a month, Guilliman weeds out the entire invading Chaos force on Macragge in a series of battles and heroic duels worthy of any primarch. RG25+26. Roboute Round 1 and Round 4+ (using the Hand of Dominion): Hits 1.667 times, wounds 1.389 times, 0.695 wounds after saves, and IWND will take that down to 0.362 wounds at the start of the next turn. It is known that while heading to Terra on Macragge's Honour, the Thousand Sons transported him into the Maelstrom, where he and his allies were attacked by a warband of Red Corsairs and daemons led by Kairos Fateweaver. Despite any personal shortcomings however, and beyond his tactical & strategic genius, his skills as an administrator and as a statesman, Guilliman's most noteworthy characteristic is being one of the few well adjusted, sensible people in the entire freaking galaxy. What do you think? That's right; Guilliman is back! Ironically, this will probably be a good thing. Even though he would later be shown by his own men how effective such unconventional guerrilla tactics would be and would include then in his codex. While he promotes meritocracy and progress and refuses to waste any life, Roboute is always described as cold and logical, obsessed with efficiency, and not a kind of crusading philanthropist. I think we both know you have.". Lorgar might not have been anywhere near the same level as strategist or general as Guilliman in even warfare, but military victories won through surprise, misdirection and clever deployment are just as valid. Big.E loved mankind as a whole but never individual humans, not even his so-called "sons"; and that rankled Big Blue. The first Loyalist Primarch to come back to 40K, Lord Commander of the Imperium, clad in the Armour of Fate, a present from Cawl that brought him out of stasis. Matt Ward does not approve. 0. Second, he allows all Imperium units (not just Ultramarines, Imperium as a whole) within 12 inches to: As the Ultramarines' Primarch, he also has a 6" bubble that grants them a re-roll for all failed rolls to hit and wound rolls of 1 (changed with the Ultramarine's supplement), which, as explained above, also applies to him. Mr. 13 Failures might have failed to get to Terra as he planned, but he still got a nasty blow in and Guilliman knows it. According to Guilliman, when he met with the Emperor, the latter treated him as little more than a favorite tool that had only just been recovered for a highly urgent job, as opposed to the last of his loyal sons. However as the Horus Heresy series continues, it is revealed that it was actually Malcador the Sigillite who had been creating the foundations for the later Imperium. He was known to calculate logistical information and strategies far faster than the Mechanicum's best logic engines, planning out entire planetary invasions in his mind in moments, a feat only rivaled by his brother the Lion. ), Rowrowrowyourboat Gentlydownthestreamlyman, Every possible combination of the previous nicknames. That flame of hope had been a part of him for as long as he had lived. None had envisioned a brighter future, not just for Mankind but also for the warriors of the Legiones Astartes. Corvus hits 4 times (Scourge)/3 times (Shadow-walk), wounds 3 times (Scourge)/2.25 times (Shadow-walk), causing 1.5 wounds (Scourge)/1.125 wounds (Shadow-walk) after the Invuln which drop down to 1.286 (Scourge)/0.911 (Shadow-walk) and IWND will take that down to 0.953 (Scourge)/0.578 (Shadow-walk) wounds at the start of the next turn. This is incorrect, considering that Sebastian Thor is actually the main Imperial saint, and Sanguinius is the primarch most beloved by the common men of the Imperium. 356k members in the Warhammer40k community. It is not "making friends and influencing people", that is flattery. Later. So while central worlds of Ultramar prospered, provinces were much shittier places to live, up to the point where some populaces didn't know who Guilliman was (and I'm not making it up, Lion spits this information in Roboute's face in "Unremembered Empire"). He then looked to liberate the rest of the Macragge system, this time with help from the Primogenitor Chapters, the Dark Angels, Space Wolves, White Scars, a Sisters of Battle army, the remaining Black Templars that fought on Cadia, more Guardsmen, a ship containing an entire Knight Household, an entire Imperial Navy battlegroup, and the Mechanicus with an entire Titan Legion backing them. Guilliman Round 2 and thereafter: hits 3.333 times, wounds 2.778 times, 0.926 times after saves and IWND will take that down to 0.37 wounds at the start of the next turn. Preternatural Strategy can force opponents to re-roll successful attempts at Seize the Initiative while also granting all units from one entry in the Ultramarines army list Implacable Advance, Interceptor, or Tank Hunters if they don't have it already, and by that they do mean entry, not just one unit, so if you selected Legion Predator Strike Armour Squadron to have Tank Hunters then every Legion Predator Strike Armour Squadron in your army will gain the rule. Guilliman Round 1: 2.5/1.666 times, wounds 2.0833/1.389 times, 1.389/0.926 wounds after saves and 1.055/0.593 wounds after IWND. (Although Astelan was also a traitor and a fallen angel, so he remains a questionable source.) Tempest also points out that the Horus Heresy actually began almost a year prior to the Battle of Calth and that both the Word Bearers and World Eaters were already burning their way through the 500 Worlds of Ultramar before they even reached the Calth system. Vulkan hits 2 times, wounds 1.667 times, 0.833 times after saves, 0.633 times after Armour of Reason and IWND will take that down to 0.3. You know, the guy with all the best traits of the Emperor and none of his flaws, was revered by literally everyone, and was loved by every Astartes and every Primarch. If you hadn’t noticed, Guilliman and Abaddon are meant to be fighting each other. ... Windows 8, 8 RT, 10 and Modern UI ; Windows 8 desktop, Windows 7, XP & Vista ; Kindle Cloud Reader. Space Marines were first introduced in Warhammer 40,000: Rogue Trader (1987) by Rick Priestley, which was the first edition of the tabletop game.. He has one major flaw, though, he cannot ride any transport, as he's classified as a Monster and not an infantry unit for some reason, not even in a Mastodon or a Thunderhawk. Alpharius hits 2.917 times and wounds 1.702 times (Remember he has Preferred Enemy), 0.851 wounds after the Invuln, 0.643 after Armour of Reason and IWND will take that down to 0.31 wounds at the start of the next turn. Without a helmet. Page 1 of 1 Start over Page 1 of 1 . He was also among the best Primarchs when it came to logistics and organization, though Perturabo was probably better, (but Guilliman wasn't an antisocial autistic weirdo, so there's that), which is pretty much one of the only reasons why the Imperium of Man didn't collapse after the Horus Heresy. It speaks something of most of the denizens of 4chan that so few of them have ever pointed out this simple fact(as in little of them have management experience, but hey, we're considering gameplayers here). Whenever Guilliman liberated a world, he would not move on until he had set up a self-sufficient defense system, a… Guilliman hits 2.5 times, wounds 2.222 times (Gladius), 0.74 wounds after saves and IWND will take that down to 0.407. Guilliman then gets an audience with the Emperor behind closed doors. Guilliman will still probably win on average but it's closer than the above shows. Hope you'll … Guilliman easily wins this fight... theoritically. It’s a showdown for the ages–representing the forces of humanity, Roboute Guilliman, the scoutiest of the boy scouts, clad in specially crafted power armor, wielding the weapon of his dad, and doing his best to step out from under his father’s long shadow. He plays a major role in the third Gathering Storm book. Even with forcing Guilliman to re-roll 5's and 6's for the first round Lorgar will still lose. Except Caesar and Octavius. Alas, Guilliman and his reinforcements arrived too late to stop the traitors (who despite the death of Horus still held space around the planet) from retreating to their ships and fleeing Terra. Leman Round 3 and on (using the Axe of Helwinter): Hits 3.719 times, wounds 3.099 times, 1.55 after the Invuln, 1.331 after the re-roll with IWND taking that down to 0.998 at the start of the next turn. As of now, Big Bobby G is splitting his time between his history work, preventing the Imperium's appalling situation from getting worse by pointing a power-armored finger in the right direction, and applying power-armored boot to asses where needed. Guilliman Round 2 and thereafter: hits 3.333 times, wounds 2.963 times, 1.482 times after saves and IWND will take that down to 1.148 wounds at the start of the next turn. Far from the "perfect in every aspect" figure Matt Ward promoted, the HH Guilliman is actually a man with a lot of very human weaknesses but possessing the humility to admit them as flaws he must deal with. Leman Round 1 & 2 (using the Axe of Helwinter): Hits 4.886 times, wounds 4.071 times, 2.035 after the Invuln, 1.817 after the re-roll with IWND taking that down to 1.484 at the start of the next turn. I gave everything I had to you, to them. Also do note that after the first few wounds inflicted from Horus, Guilliman will have his S significantly reduced and the Gladius Incandor will become useless. save. (Combined with Guilliman's ability to reroll failed wounds, this makes wounding on a 5+ a lot less bad than you'd think, such that the Gauntlet is only better in edge cases: i.e. It's where your interests connect you with your people. Perturabo Round 1: hits 2.667 times, wounds 2.222 times, 1.111 times after the Invuln, 0.911 times after the re-roll and IWND will take that down to 0.578. He then took command of the local imperial forces and used his tactical genius to inspire the combined forces of Chaos to simultaneously shit themselves. The respect between the two is interesting, because it shows two historically opposed forces allying towards a common goal, showing that Geedubs might be going a bit old-school with this, having the (somewhat) less evil factions uniting against chaos, tempering the Grimderp of the setting with a little pragmatism, and who better to do that than Mr. Practicality and the world's most morally flexible Eldar? 9 comments. Suffice to say, he was NOT pleased with the whole space Catholicism thing that had been going on while he was asleep, seeing as Lorgar's desire to worship the emperor ruined everything. Guilliman Round 2 and thereafter: hits 3.333 times, wounds 2.963 times, 1.48 times after saves and IWND will take that down to 1.15 wounds at the start of the next turn. He's also busy writing the Codex Imperialis which is basically the Codex Astartes on civil society and good governance. Just like the Imperium does. Then he faced Omegon and Fulgrim after the heresy, (supposedly) killing the former and very nearly dying to the latter. A popular rumor was that he was slowly healing, though that would be impossible in stasis. Raised on the world of Macragge, Guilliman was a natural born strategist, statesman, and warrior. Of note, Guilliman is also the first Primarch to make an actual appearance in video games, debuting in Battlefleet Gothic: Armada II whilst riding around in his personal flagship: The Macragge's Honour. RG27. ", After being poisoned by Fulgrim, Guilliman was put into stasis. Konor Guilliman, the man who took him in, was a pretty cool dude who advocated helping the common man and pushed for meritocratic reforms. Abnett's Guilliman is a great administrator, better than any other Primarch, but not better than Your Dudes at what they're defined by. Sidenote: this probably also makes him immune to possession by Lucius the Eternal (or maybe he already was, he is a Primarch after all), ironically enough, also if you think it through til the end he is now the greatest living threat for Lucius' continued survival. The good news is that the wait is finally over! Previous page. But contrary to what many think of him he didn't go out of his way to force his ways on others, he simply made all his writings and tactics available to all his brothers, and told his men to be at their best when fighting alongside the other factions. Other than that, we also see Mortarion still acting like a petulant bitch after 10,000 years before Gorillaman himself laid an epic smackdown of burns. Guilliman was also one of the few Primarchs who didn't really see the Emperor as his father, paying lip service to the idea but being the first to state how shitty the Emperor was at raising kids and he never fully forgave the Emperor for using him and his Legion as a tool to humiliate Lorgar. For the latter case, he is the most revered one (Augustus), hence it is entirely reasonable for him to keep being dictator. If the Night Lords got into battle with a fearless enemy, they'd be at a disadvantage. Papa Smurf learns from his mistakes. I was lucky to take part on this project a year ago, since warhammer world is something near and familiar for me. First, as the Warlord in a battleforged army, he gives 3 additional command points, allowing to rack up easily 10+ command points even in small points games. One day while Roboute was coming back after fighting the Macragge's version of the Gauls, he found his home in disarray. We're sure Lorgar would be pleased about that if he wasn't wholly dedicated to Chaos now. He is credited with reorganizing the entire governmental and administrative system of the Imperium of Man (yes, the reorganized Administratum ended up running the galaxy into the ground, but the fact that it's still running at all is a good sign). This will not be a waste as surrounding units will greatly be enhanced by his auras. Finally, his gun is the Arbitrator, a S6 AP3 combi-bolter with Assault 2 and Rending- which he might as well have left at home for how often it fires it as he has a Cognis Signum to use instead (+1 BS to a unit instead of firing a weapon himself). The Imperial Fists were known for their interlocked shield walls, the Iron Hands for their steadiness under fire, the Iron Warriors for their willingness to accept casualties, the Salamanders for their courage in the face of overwhelming odds, and you can bet the Ultras learned from these aspects of all their ways of warfare. Both of them are Specialist weapons, so regardless of which one he picks he still gets an extra attack. Guilliman Round 1/2: hits 2.5 times, wounds 2.222 times, 0.74 times after saves and IWND will take that down to 0.407 wounds at the start of the next turn. Encompassing the Ultramarines philosophy, Guilliman is a talented jack of all trades, but he's no master-of-none. 101. No, I mean SERIOUSLY, are you okay bro? Thankfully Guilliman still retains some flaws. Even his own armour is artificer armour that he improved in various ways after studying the merits and disadvantages of other designs. Guilliman set up a formal, impersonal meeting between the two of them, alongside their captains, retinues, and aides. Guilliman' odds of victory were slimming, until the Sisters of Silence, supported by the Imperial Fists and the Adeptus Custodes, drop in and punt the Thousand Sons' dusty asses back into the warp. Or maybe Matt was secretly brought back for that particular book, which would go quite a long way in explaining all of the Smurf wanking in it. Specifically, he was unable to prevent his foster father Konor Guilliman from being killed while he was away on campaign. I was finally able to finish this guy. The best example of this might be his dealings with Lorgar. Not to mention how he was the only primarch with his eye on the long term during The Scouring, the effectiveness of the Codex Astartes may be debatable but at least Guilliman was thinking about the future rather than focused on immediate vengeance or drowning in self-pity, this wasn't the first time Guilliman lost a father. £3.00... more info. He's been lucky to survive his encounters with Magnus and Mortarion who both easily outmatched him and is deeply unhappy with the Imperium and the Emperor alongside supposed allies like the inquisition actively making his life difficult because their power is threatened. TL;DR: Guilliman is a monstrosity and point for point one the best units in the game, being at the same time resilient, fast, deadly in close combat, no slouch in shooting and a nice force multiplier for any Imperial Force. This adherence toward a rigid chain of command did end up becoming a double-edged sword later on, since when Guilliman was put into stasis the Ultramarines still tried to follow him (thanks to him being the at the top of the chain) and as such started to forget that the Codex Astartes was only meant to be a guideline, as opposed to a definitive text. Now has been just presented by HMO as a 1:6 diorama. Lots of detail. Banzai1000 is a hobbyist from Germany with over 15 years of experience, and a regular contributor to White Dwarf Magazine. A long as fuck fight, but Guilliman takes the win 'cause he does marginally more damage. he becomes WS8 on the second round and so on), although it resets back to 7 after the challenge is over or if his opponent swaps out for somebody else via something like Glorius Intervention. Tank Hunting Support Squads or Heavy Weapon Squads sound good to you? Painting. Angron Round 2: Angron hits 4 times, wounds 3.333 times, 1.667 times after saves, 1.453 after re-roll and IWND will take that down to 1.12 wounds at the start of the next turn. A model that stands head and shoulders above even the Primaris Space Marines. Mortarion fell to the heart of despair, and Magnus also did the same thing around the other side. What do you expect from trying to go up against The Emperor's Executioner. However, this type of over-designing does happen to favor the filthy heretic, as there have been plenty of bitchin conversions by chaos players, lopping off his head, replacing it with an appropriately sized ugly chaos faction head of their choosing, filing off the Smurf iconography, and then painting it with whatever grungy/fabulous colour scheme that looks passable, and presto! He then reneged on his deal and ordered the Custodian Guard to seize Cypher before he could be granted audience with the Emperor (though Cypher, being Cypher, immediately escaped, but is shown to have a particular bad case of butthurt, first time in 40k history!). After fighting their way through an army of daemons and escaping through the webway, they were pursued by the Thousand Sons but fought their way through to Luna and continued the battle on Terra's doorstep, and eventually Guilliman winds up dueling Magnus himself. Он - повелитель человечества и владыка миллионов миров, правящий силой своих неистощимых армий. Better that we had all burned in the fire of Horus' ambition than lived to see this. He’s no slouch in combat, can come back from the dead, and gives you 3 extra Command points. A king reborn with a deathly blade. Or at least trying to. A superb general and warrior, but above that, an equally competent statesman and leader. Call it faith and trust, call it arrogance and presumption, but Guilliman genuinely believed that he controlled the most disciplined, civilized peoples and armies within the Imperium and he thought his way was best. £3.00... more info Sold Out . This "better than thou" shit is sad and quite paradoxical, since Guilliman himself genuinely recognized some Primarchs were better than him as leaders. Guilliman loses. While most of his Company Captains believed it was just the Warmaster flexing his muscles, Guilliman realised that there was a political angle to it as well: when the Emperor of Mankind rebuked Lorgar Aurelian for spreading the Lectitio Divinatatus, he ordered the Ultramarines to burn Monarchia, capital city of Khur, as an example of what would happen to those who continued to defy the Imperial Truth. That episode he doesn't like to talk about, Guilliman the Failure...And Why That Makes Him Awesome, 30K Roboute Guilliman VS Other 30K Primarchs, a fact that twisted Konrad Curze's nipples to no end (which goes double when she tells him to go fuck himself), only for the whole thing to be abandoned when Guilliman learned to his horror that the Emperor wasn't dead and that his whole plan was little more than a pointless waste of time. Which is nice. Therefore, while some people insist he was the Primarch with the greatest mental capacity and adaptability, he struggled with lateral thinking and would frequently fail to see the flaws in his methods until explicitly shown the error of his ways. When Tempest came out, it significantly downplayed his flaws, though not as much as knee-jerk reactions made people fear. That's not to say that any of those choices are wrong or unnecessary, but they're each notable because they show that Guilliman is now more inclined to sudden, imperious action where once he might have used diplomacy. To his much less pleasant surprise, he found out Big. Some of you may even have wondered if the model was ever going to be finished. Furthermore, the Space Wolves were confirmed in Inferno to react more quickly to unexpected problems than Legions more "reliant on highly coordinated planning"; which might as well call out the Ultramarines by name. A fun fact is that he is also quite creeped out at the whole 'turn-a-baby-into-a-flying-cyborg' thing going around in the AdMech and Ecclesiarchy. Ironically enough, Guilliman has something the Imperium needs even more desperately than new technologies and peace: managerial skills, among the primarchs Guilliman was the only one who actually seemed to be bright enough to understand and strongly insist upon. Whilst deposing some of the High Lords may seem unnecessary given the fragile state of the Imperium, do note that Guilliman is a meritocrat and an administrator first and foremost, so if anyone can save the Administratum and the Imperial Senate, it's him. Tragic, but also kinda funny. TL;DR version: Surprisingly, despite being one the best army buffers amongst Primarchs and his generally not outstanding (for a Primarch) stats, Guilliman is actually a beast in 1 on 1 fights if they drag on long enough, beating all but the most specialised Primarchs and mathematically losing only to Horus, Angron, Fulgrim and Leman Russ. On small point games, you can use him as a fire magnet, at higher point you can be sure your opponent will do whatever is in his power to bring him down, so shield him accordingly. Please note that all the various abilities, with the exception of Blind, are taken into account (Blind is ignored because it is just too random and unreliable to come into play) and the match-ups assume the Primarchs are the only ones involved in the fighting, so various abilities like Angron's "The Butcher's Nails" and Rampage do not provide any bonuses. … Guilliman utilized his skills as a tactician and strategist to fight in his Father's crusade, preferring to form battle plans rather than actually participate in the fighting himself (though he still did his fair share of Xeno-killing). After Roboute was resurrected, he goes full-blown Saitama and proceeds to wipe out an entire horde of veteran chaos marines with his manly man-fists without taking a single scratch. Just for comparision my conversion and the original miniature from GW: at 22:39 Labels: Conversion , Talons of the Emperah
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